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nemesis8679 replied to Hockeydadof2's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Where is the link?

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nemesis8679 replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

If that's true, then he should make sure they have them. He better hope nobody comes forward that was part of his training around here. Massive liability.

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Hockeydadof2 posted a topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

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YardSale replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

He could address his plans to get clearances for his coaches seeing as most don't have them

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aaaahockey replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Yes I wasn't aiming that at you. I was just saying that's about all you can say.

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nemesis8679 replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

No kidding. I was just replying to the guy who said he didn't make a statement, that yes, he did make one.

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aaaahockey replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

What else would he say? I'm sure he's as shocked as the rest of us.

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nemesis8679 replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

His comment to the news was that he no longer works for him. That was it.

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Tired Hockey Mom replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Have you ever asked coaches to do a game analysis? I have had coaches willing to do a video analysis of my son's game via zoom. We of course have paid them for their time.

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bender05 replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Yeah surprising Shane clifford didn’t make a statement or anything on their social media or sending out emails to clients saying anything. Friends on a 10u team at our organization heard about it in the lobby of the rink and had been told by their instructor at Shane clifford there was a family emergency and that’s why the cranberry instructor left. They don’t watch the news and couldn’t believe the company didn’t send anything out.

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Wes replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

We funded all of our son the goalie training. He turned out to be a really good amateur goalie. (he's done with hockey post college now) not once in all his years did anyone evaluate his play in person. and it is vert true if the goalie is solid the coaches mostly ignore them... on the other hand there's not much your average coach can do with goalies anyway. one thing i forgot to mention is the goalies mental makeup. Their mental DNA. Physical attributes are absolutely necessary, natural sporting talent is great too. But if your goalie is a basket case your team will be in trouble. the ideal goalie can shake off the goal, critique/analyze what he did wrong and turn the page and have extremely short memory. THANK GOODNESS my son had that mentality even from a young age in net. never got too high or too low, just turn the page and don't dwell on the last goal allowed. One season his goalie teammate who went from AAA to AA, literally played poorly all season, and every bad goal he'd smash his stick on the posts. His family was wealthy and I think he broke at least a dozen sticks(!!!) They'd just buy him another $300 stick. Our son whacked the post once when he was 10 and we told him you break it you buy it and that was the end of that!!! LOL another thing that drives me nuts with goalies is how they play loose pucks heading to them from long distances. I used to see goalies nonchalantly skate forward and play the puck while ignoring the obvious issue that if you misplay it, its going to slide right into the net. It was amazing to me how many careless goalies there were and nobody ever taught them to safely stop the puck then play it. usually even all the way through college some goalie would whiff on a puck and into the net it went. One time when my son was like 9 and playing for Dev team he had a shutout going and with about 4 minutes left the other team shot the puck towards his net from their own blue line, and he went out 15 feet to play it, he fanned on it and it went into the net. Thank goodness that was his last whiff his whole career. He learned quick on that... So many good and fun memories. Watching them learn from mistakes is a good thing.

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sarampage replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

So true...many teams do very little to nothing for goalies, and finding time for lessons when your kid is playing amateur and school hockey while trying to also get him some needed rest is a next to impossible.

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Nepotisim_anyone replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

I agree. Film analysis is huge. Probably more important than anything but finding time for that and instruction is hard. Practices for teams don’t cut it as most coaches ignore their goalies. It’s a double edge sword

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dazedandconfused replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Yinz goalies are all NUTZ!!! But nothing kills a season like a goaltending issue can. Be thankful for the parents willing to take on exponential costs!!

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sarampage replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

My son did lessons with him at Baierl the first year Shane had his sheet there. Always thought he was a little odd. He just moved from Sioux City and Shane told me he had been scouting for the Musketeers. It was also during COVID and it was convenient since his HS team played out of there. Looked at my phone and still have pages of texts with him. Very sad to think about the monster he may be. With that said, Shane was his his first coach at 12U and we often traveled to Alpha for lessons. I thought Shane was good...definitely a different personality, but he knows his stuff and he'll tell you like it is. For the last few years of HS, he ended up going to Mike Chiasson at UPMC, who he really liked. it was convenient because I could just register him online when he wanted to go and there was usually only a few other goalies there. Plus, the shooters were usually top notch. As Wes said, Goalie coaches can really only help you with technique and do drills that try to simulate game situations. In the end, playing in games and analyzing plays with video is the best way to learn and identify where you need to improve or adjust how you read plays. Kenny Reiter was probably the best coach my son had when he was at NP. He would help out with goalie training and was solid in everything he taught. Not sure if he is still involved with coaching or not. Don't overdo it - you don't want your kid to need hip surgery at 20. Also, I think it's good idea to have several coaches throughout your career to soak in different philosophies. My .02. I could talk about goaltending for hours...

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nemesis8679 replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Another example showing that all of the clearances and other bullshit youth sports puts people through means absolutely nothing as far as keeping abusers and molesters away from kids, as long as they haven't been caught yet. And maybe not really even then.

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James Gatz replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Like so many other aspects of hockey, there is a correlation between cost and the amount of services the consumer receives. A general menu might look like: Free--no supplemental goalie training. Only coaching is whatever they get, if anything, during team practices. Some organizations may offer bi-weekly goalie clinics. ~$40-$45/50 minute session--supplemental goalie clinic with multiple stations, goalies, and coaches in a session. Probably looking at a 3:1 or 4:1 ratio without too much time for individual instruction. Times are limited and inflexible due to requiring full sheet. ~$50-$75 per 30-45 minute session--private or semi-private with 1-2 goalies sharing a crease. Can be done on goalie creases opening scheduling options. Mostly drills, but more easily tailored to the individuals compared to the clinic format. ~$75 plus, start adding video analysis >$100 outside coach will attend team practices or games, video training and instruction based on game video. For most A and AA goalies, the first couple pay tiers offer a good return on investment in my opinion.

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Wes replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Here in 2024, now that my kids have graduated college, in hindsight I'd say both in person reviews and analysis of play along with video review of the same would be very beneficial to a goalie who is really interested in learning the position. However, in my son's entire goalie career, and that was mostly at AA/AAA levels, not once did a goalie coach ever do an in-game review of his play. There is so many more nuances to the position than just the drills you do with a goalie coach. Don't get me wrong, those drills help by getting the technique down, but I'd think first hand analysis would be the best thing. The ability to discuss specific scenarios with a goalie based on their real in game performance in my mind would really help goalies who are aspiring to be the best.

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Wes replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

So let me open Pandora's box and ask why? My son went to him from around age 11-15/16 and I thought he did an OK job, but that ended around 2016. What went downhill?

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TeamRamRod replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

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newhockeydad replied to Nepotisim_anyone's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

My son is a new part time goalie and we did the Industry Goaltending camp at RMU this summer. JT did a really good job and my son learned quite a bit. www.industrygoaltending.com

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Nepotisim_anyone posted a topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

I’m over Shane Clifford for Pittsburgh goalies. Who else is there that your goalies like?

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newhockeydad replied to Fosta812's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Just wondering what your son ending up doing this season?

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YardSale replied to nemesis8679's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

If you aren't playing out of a black bear rink consistently, save your money. The family doesn't need to watch every game.

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newhockeydad replied to nemesis8679's topic in Western Pennsylvania Youth Hockey

Anyone have any feedback so far? My son is playing in the Alpha Columbus Day Tournament and it looks like some of the games could be at either Palmer or Pittsburgh Ice Arena. Just trying to see if it is worth buying the games for family to watch. Most of the rinks he plays at are non Black Bear rink, so I would just hate to waste money for those couple games if it isn't very good.